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I'm locked out since the 24th - I have asked friends at both ends of the country (Ireland) and they can not access either.
I am using a London IP address now which is working for me .

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The last section of the Clydebuilt family of web sites went down last night, tugtalk.co.uk.
The members have been carefully transferred to the -->> New Tug Talk <<-- under the command of our very own Dave Waller, I wish Dave and crew every success with the new Venture .

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Tug Talk may now also be in danger of deletion .
For anyone with an interest in the future of Tug Talk - Fog Horn, with out BB
please email your name and email address to tugtalk2016@gmail.com for a discussion on same .

Thanks

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The domain clydesite.co.uk was due for renewal on the 17th of August 2016 but was not renewed and has now been suspended by the Domain registrar. The cost of renewal is about six pounds fifty pence, as the owner did have a fund raiser recently and sufficient funds were donated to cover running costs...

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davidwat wrote:no owner interest nowadays. Pity.

Not so, I should be the last one defending Bruce but he has put a lot of work in to the site lately , even created a mobile version So I doubt its gone gone , suspect some tech problems .

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Clyde Ships alive and well. http://clydeships.co.uk/ 27,930 vessels and growing 15,509 Ships Photos No Ads, free to use data base online 24/7 - 365 Might as well introduce the sisters while I'm here Sunderland / Wear Built Ships http://sunderlandships.com/ Tees Built Ships http://www.teesbuiltships....

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Thanks Graeme, great article .

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I have had contact from a person who has the bell from the Oakwood built 1954 by Lithgows Ltd , he is offering the bell free to a good home (museum). If any one knows of a good home for a bell please let me know, its about 6 kilos , he bought it in a junk shop in Taiwan . http://clydeships.co.uk/vie...

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Storm Rachel ?

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Thanks for the photos Norman, news over here is she will have two sisters. For those uncertain the L.É. stands for Long Eireannach - Irish Ship. Note the break from women's names from Irish & Celtic mythology. Its a pity the powers that be changed the naming convention from the old Celtic names to t...

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Clyde Maritime has a membership of nearly 2000, I would like to enlist your help in pushing this through, please every one this resource is very important for maritime research follow the link and vote NO.1 Lloyds List. So far Lloyds List has 169 votes with your support we can get that up to 1000 by...

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Should also add, we now have 8757 photos, a great thank you to all those who supplied images.

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Marco wrote:did anyone else refer to the SS as "Shite Ship", or was that just my upbringing!

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I have the attached article from an 1838 magazine re steamers for the Nile.
I don't see any thing on the current lists matching these, could any one shed light on it ?.

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Like peas in a pod, lets hope they all looked the same.
It will be late spring / early summer before this one is dived again, hoping the next dive will get a full list of the remnants compiled and then maybe a positive ID can be made.

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Hi Angus I was just having a look at Robertson vessels built by Scotts, I see the Topaz and the Kyanite have the same dimensions as the Nephrite slight difference in grt but look's like either could be a close match. Do you have a photo of either of these two, I am aware that the coasting steamers o...

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No coal at the wrecksite but that's not unusual as I don't recall seeing coal at other wrecksites either (where you might expect it), maybe the Risdon Beasley lads were having a slack week and decided a cargo of coal was better then nothing. The wreck is that of a single screw steamer and local fish...

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Thanks Angus We believe she sank at her present location, but how and when ? , the wreck is badly broken up. Re the coal I sent a question to the diver who found and Identified her ( ? ) a few days ago still waiting for a reply. (?) there is nothing at the wrecksite to positively Id the wreck other ...

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Thanks Angus
We know she ran aground on Umfin Island http://www.pbase.com/rogercurry/image/122656590 she was reported ashore on the Island, she now lies about two miles off shore, we don't know how she got out there.
A photo would be great if you lay your hand on one.

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I am on the look out for a photo of the "Nephrite" built by Scott & Sons 1896.
http://www.clydeships.co.uk/view.php?ref=20586
She was lost off County Donegal in 1927.
The wreck has been located and surveyed, it would be nice to see her as she was originally.

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Glasgow Herald Monday, April 18, 1870, reports "The John Ferguson from Trinidad for Greenock has been lost on Aves island"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isla_Aves

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Thanks Colin
I can ask Bobby if we can use it, I was hoping for one other then those on the BB site but beggars can't be choosers.

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In addition to vessel histories and photos, we would also like to compile the history of individual ship builders and ship yards. We would gladly accept yard histories (all credit going to the author of course). If any one has already written some or feels like they could and would like to share ple...

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Also these two
Premier built by Shearer & Sons Ltd, 1894
Inishtrahull built by D & W Henderson Ltd, 1895

Thank you

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Would any member have a photo of the LADY ROSLIN built at Ardrossan Dockyard Ltd, 1958 ? .

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Hi Rob Sorry I missed your post when it came in, you may have read in another post that a new Clyde built ships website is due for release soon http://forums.clydemaritime.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28202 . The new website will contain the history of individual builders or at least as much as we know...

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Deepol wrote:So it's OK to tell others about this then. Super.

Link to the announcement is here viewtopic.php?f=21&t=28202&p=54739&hili ... ust#p54739

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Hear hear Angus - and all the while the database remains at risk..... The data base is no longer at risk we have the recent announcement of a brand new data base derived from the work of Bruce Allan due for launch in the next few weeks. Plus and I have no problems making it public now I managed to ...

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By chance has any one saved pages from tug talk fog horn or the Clyde Bt board ? . The first page is here http://web.archive.org/web/20130518190022/http://tugtalk.co.uk/ but I would like to see the page where the post is displayed. I have viewed it a 1000 times but now can not remember all the bits ...

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she does not find CM as user-friendly as the old Clydesite forums. The message board software that Bruce used is very old it was a free download for win 98 I think. If contact can be made with Bruce could he be asked to pass on the software and a data base for the boards even a blank one. If this c...

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mcmahos wrote: just tried his Facebook page and it looks like it's been removed - either that or he's unfriended me!

I was a FB friend up to about a year ago, I UN-friended him , I checked on some old messages between us and the link back to his FB page is dead.

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I can now answer this one myself.
Hugh Barclay was the son of Peter Barclay, after the death of Peter in 1867 Hugh continued to build under the name Peter Barclay & Son in partnership with James Paterson Roberton.
Business went bust in 1877.

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Looking for History on this builder, specifically any connections with Hugh Barclay also Shipbuilder of Ardrossan or Barclay, Roberton & Company, Ardrossan (Hugh Barclay, and James Paterson Roberton) . I also have the following vessels from LR 1872 and 1880 listed as built by Barclay, Ardrossan . If...

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Thanks Jim That looks like her, Anne Macleod 13522 foundered off Carlingford lough Co Louth on 22/01/1862. 1859 she was sold to Cory Darby, Dundalk. Registry to Dundalk. LR gives the owner as MacLeod & Co., Glasgow upto 1860 , the un-seaworthy ships commission reports the loss of the vessel and five...

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The launch was reported in the Greenock Telegraph / Greenock Advertiser 10.08.1869, I don't have access to the article.

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Anne M'leod ( Anne Macleod )
Looking for a builder for this one.
O.N 13522
72-T Brigantine
Built at Greenock 1856
Owner 1856 M'Leod & Co Glasgow .
Foundered at sea 1862 .

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Looking to expand the Vessel list for this builder Kenneth Mathieson, Port Glasgow. His last Clyde vessel was the Clydeside, he immigrated to Aus in the early 40s. The list so far, have the history for all except James Burn. Robert Syers 1837 Mercury 1838 James Burn 1838 Ann Martin 1839 Clydeside 18...

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Thank you Jim

We have those four listed under Robert Thomson, Troon.
Was Robert Thomson and Troon ShipBuilding Co one and the same ?.

Mick

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I can add the following to the specs for the Zealand from Prof Ian Buxton. "She was a shelter deck vessel (which might indicate no poop/forecastle) 12 pass, a 73ft boatdeck (presume amidships), with a 23ft deckhouse on top. Sheer forward 6ft, aft 3.5ft. 139800 cuft cargo. Single screw triple exp. Tw...

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Could any one tell me what is that Apparatus on the after deck .

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"Aviation spirit in drum" Did not expect that you would but I might expect some remnants of steel drums. The Aviation fuel may have been the cause of the damage to the bow and the reason she went down so quickly. I was also hoping for a bigger side view picture of the Memas as there was more then o...

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yorkieman wrote:Additional engine details.

I was thinking number of boilers and or position of engines.
But I think that big apparatus on the after deck is a give away its clearly shown in the video.

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Hi Flaviu On the Admiralty chart I see two wrecks about 5nm west of Atlit, 2734 mtrs apart at a depth between 60 and 100 mtrs, I figure your diving one of these. The available evidence would leave me to believe that these two are the Zealand and Memas. But which is which ?, below I have included som...

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Thanks for the reply Jim
The list I am working on has a gap for the Portland S. B. Co. from 1821 to 1840 , possibly some of my mystery vessels came from that yard. Will do a little digging and come back.

Mick

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As you say, a poor start, and it gets worse ! Unable to provide anything for the vessels mentioned - sorry.( Thanks Angus I have a bunch of Sailing Vessels from the 30s and 40s not listed in the BB data base, I have exhausted all known sources to no avail , posting them here was worth a shot, I got...

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That was a poor start, try and redeem your self with a few by unknown builders at Greenock. 1832 Mary 217 T brig, owner M'Larty, Greenock. 1840 Levenside 273 T, built Greenock, owner J McMillan, Greenock. Lost near Port Stanley, Falkland Islands, 04/03/1852. May have been built by James McMillan, Gr...

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1840, Ellen 128 T Schooner owner J. Donnell, Liverpool. O.N 8882. Launched Thursday 22nd of October 1840, a Schooner of 130 tons, named ELLEN of Liverpool for owners Joseph Donnell, Edward Hughes and the vessel's Captain Roche. For trading between Liverpool and Wexford. Do you know who built it ?.

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Thanks Jim

Jim Anderson wrote:Does anyone know where she was wrecked on her last voyage Archangel-London ?

Left Archangel for London 02-08-1850 with a cargo of oats and flax, eight crew, never heard from again.

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OK Angus Here is a few to start with. Built By unknown builders at Troon. 1840, Ellen 128 T Schooner owner J. Donnell, Liverpool. O.N 8882. 1841, Rozelle 129 T Schooner owner D. Bryee & Co, Greenock. 1843, Janet Wilson 267 T Barque owner D.Wilson, Greenock. O.N 15447. If you can find builders for th...

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